Jenkins: Social media use through the Internet is such an
amazing technology that we have and use in today’s society. It really allows
for people to come together and share ideas in personally and socially
meaningful ways through participatory culture. We all have the right to
participate and social media allows us all to do so! Social media empowers all
of us who choose to participate because it allows us to play significant roles
in the distribution of cultural capital.
Fuchs: It sounds like social media is a great thing that can
help improve society. But what do you mean by participatory culture?
Jenkins: Indeed it is! Using social media as an expression
of participatory culture creates a more democratic society because a diverse
span of ideas, expressions, and content are being created, curated, circulated,
or critiqued on media platforms such as Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook. This is
possible because social media is spreadable media. Internet users play an
active role in sharing content, much of which is about materials that are
meaningful to the user, allowing for the user to be involved in the success of
a commodity resulting in consumer culture becoming more democratic because the
culture has become more participatory. And by participatory culture, I mean
humans meeting on the Internet in order to form collectives, create, and share
content generally in regard to popular culture. As an example, if a group of
100 people choose to join a Facebook group about the game application “Flappy
Bird” on the iPhone, and on the group they discuss their likes and dislikes for
the game and what they think should be improved, they are partaking in a form
of participatory culture.
Fuchs: Interesting perspective. And who are these humans
that you speak of that meet on the Internet and collaborate?
Jenkins: The humans that I speak of are consumers and fans
that form online communities
Fuchs: Okay. Well what about the owners of these platforms?
Do they participate as well? What about the people that work for these
platforms, do they participate? And what exactly do the people that you
mentioned participate in?
Jenkins: Yes, the owners of these platforms participate. The
people that work for these platforms are able to participate in the same way
the users of these platforms are able to. And the people I mentioned
participate by playing an integral role in the success of a commodity and
participating in the production and distribution of cultural goods.
Fuchs: And because they are the owners, aren’t they able to
mediate the cultural expressions of the consumers and fans using their
platforms and don’t they have full control of economic decision-making?
Jenkins: Yes, I suppose they do.
Fuchs: If this is the case, is social media truly
“participatory” if participation is somewhat dictated by a small elite group of
individuals? The employees of these large platforms and the Internet users that
these platforms need in order to build capital do not participate in economic
decision-making and do not have full control over the content they choose to
share in their online communities. This indicates that the participatory
culture you speak of has some power asymmetries. The employees as well as the
Internet users are being exploited for their work in order to benefit the small
group of individuals who run these platforms. It is clear that these platforms
are structural forms of capitalism as they only benefit a small few at the
expense of others.
Jenkins: Well, participatory culture is relative. We do not
and may never live in a society where every member is able to fully participate.
Fuchs: If this is so, participatory culture does not create
a more democratic society because only certain people are able to fully
participate. Participation means that humans have the right to be part of
important decision-making and are able to govern the structures that affect
them. Rights are universal, not selective—but the participatory culture you
speak of is indeed selective.
Jenkins: All parts of society are selective and do not
include all people. That’s just the way things work. Even in regard to
universal rights such as voting, some people—such as convicts—do not have that
right.
Fuchs: You say that as if particularism is a natural aspect
of society as opposed to a man made facet that can be changed depending on
human behavior.
Jenkins: Well, even if particularism isn’t natural, it is
part of society nonetheless.
Fuchs: But it doesn’t have to be. And nothing can be truly
participatory if there are power asymmetries involved.
Jenkins: I acknowledge your point, but despite what you have
pointed out, I believe media presumption to be inherently participatory.
Although not everyone participates in
equal ways, there are still communities of people participating in social media
online, which result in the advancement of cultural diversity.
Fuchs: So, because different communities of people share
ideas on social media, this automatically results in the advancement of
cultural diversity?
Jenkins: Yes, because many different kinds of people have
access to social media. Because of this, a variety of social content is able to
spread and content that produces more meaningful public culture is prepared.
Fuchs: You are right. Many different kinds of people have
access to social media—including those with racist and fascist ideas. For
instance, during the recent “Black Lives Matter” movement, many racist people
shared their views on social media either implicitly opposing the movement, or
explicitly sharing bigoted views about Black people and others who chose to
participate in the national movement. Do they also contribute to the
advancement of cultural diversity?
Jenkins: Well, the people who are a part of online
communities are not necessarily progressive…
Fuchs: In that case, the people in online communities do not
necessarily contribute to cultural diversity or meaningful public culture, especially
those who share racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, transphobic, etc.
views. Those types of people actually do the opposite in regard to the
advancement of cultural diversity. They spread hateful ideas, which some people
will absorb and continue to spread. This act would actually result in the
regression of cultural diversity in society.
Jenkins: I see your point. Online communities have negative
potentials. I still believe social media to be an expression of participatory
culture, but perhaps it is not as positive a tool as I previously thought in
regard to the advancement of society.
Fuchs: Ahh, I am glad you finally see what I have been
getting at Jenkins! Although social media has some positive aspects, we must
acknowledge the negative things that come along with it; such as the spreading
of racist and fascist ideas, the exploitation of wage workers for large social media
corporations, and the inherent elitism that is involved in online
participation.
Jenkins: I concede. Thank you for sharing your views and
enlightening me on the other aspects of social media that I previously ignored.
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